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Almost one month ago, a number of people contacted me about the Zakh Price story. The plight of the child was definitely one that most parents and guardians of children on the spectrum have encountered to varying degrees throughout the course of attending primary, middle and secondary school. There was no doubt in anyone’s mind that this child was not receiving the appropriate supports and programs to succeed in life. As the parent of a child with multiple disabilities including Asperger Syndrome, I was familiar with the problems that can arise from year to year and school to school (when proceeding through elementary, middle and secondary schools) and the value of appropriate advocacy for children with Autism.
However, there was another story beneath the tragic story of Zakh Price and this is why people began to contact me. One by one, the concerns voiced were eerily similar from person to person. Contradictions began to show in various posts by Carole Reynolds and people were wondering what the facts were regarding this underlying story.
It began with the people mentioning that Carole Reynolds was desperate to find a lawyer. On December 27, 2009 she wrote on Facebook:
“Marc, I can NOT find an atty. I checked in Ar, Mo, Tn, Ok and Tx. None of them practice out of state. We have no money for one as we spent over $16,000 trying to get him out of those illegal mental hospitals. There is ONE who I need to talk to who is a parent/atty with a child with autism. Perhaps she will do it pro bono or small payments. I wish there was a way to bill the school district!”
Two days later, Carole posted:
“Do you think I should talk to the prosecuting atty? I don’t know how to create a website …I’ve tried and give up half way thru. How would I let people know about it? Wish someone around here could help….but they are to scared of the courts and district.”
The post was upsetting to some as one should never speak with the prosecuting attorney unless there is appropriate representation for the accused.
On December 31, 2009 she posted on Facebook:
“Because of the article in the paper, and other people calling people and giving me suggestions it looks like Zakh will have a free atty from DRC…but she doesn’t return til Monday. The head of the DRC is very upset about this and that she didn’t know about it. And an advocate/parent from Little Rock (4 hours away) will come and assist us!”
However, some people were confused because on December 27, 2009 she had posted in response to a question about Zakh’s defence:
“Hi Lynda, Yes, he has a public defender. Here in Ft. Smith, Ar it is a wasteland for special ed attorneys…they will not touch it. The pd has no clue as to how to present a case like this…she is treating it like a normal kid … “
While it was understandable that Carole would be upset with having a public defender who supposedly did not understand how to present the case to Carole’s satisfaction, there were no details as to why the public defender was no longer representing Zakh. What’s more, where was this public defender on December 29 when Carole was considering talking directly to the prosecuting attorney. Perhaps the public defender didn’t meet Carole’s standards for defending Zakh but he was still knowledgeable in other areas of the law. Surely he would have discouraged her from speaking with the prosecuting attorney without proper representation for Zakh.
On December 31, 2009 she wrote:
“I have contacted local media , when it happened. They weren’t interested. I contacted the local paper and was warned that going public could cause a backlash on Zakh’s case because the judge doesn’t like publicity…so they wouldn’t print it. GOOD NEWS: It looks like we have a great advocate, and the DRC is going to take it over and we will get a free experienced atty for Zakh. I need a good behavior analyst…and am working on that! I emailed it to Glenn Beck, but he probably won’t ever see it. Thanks for your support everyone, Keep spreading the news. I hope the Ft. Smith School District in Arkansas is inundated with calls and letters. Carole and Zakh”
On January 1, 2010, she wrote:
“GOOD NEWS: It looks like we have a great advocate, and the DRC is going to take it over and we will get a free experienced atty for Zakh. I need a good behavior analyst…and am working on that! I emailed it to Glenn Beck, but he probably won’t ever see it. Thanks for your support everyone, Keep spreading the news. I hope the Ft. Smith School District in Arkansas is inundated with calls and letters. Carole and Zakh”
The Arkansas Disability Rights Center was going to provide Carole with a free lawyer. That obviously was great news.
Then at the Autism Support Network page on FB, there was a small discussion folder with only one post in it from Carole Reynolds and dated January 1, 2010. In it she had written:
“http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=lf#/group.php?gid=228604481972&ref=mf I’m not very good at it. Does anyone know how to put a paypal link for donations? Go to the site and read the great news to start the New Year!”
Because Carole had been trumpeting the fact that she had a free attorney to represent Zakh, it struck some people as odd that she would be asking for donations. Where was this money going to be spent? Was this money to be spent on Zakh and his defence? If it was, then what had happened to the free attorney she had posted about earlier in the day?
Government offices and most businesses are closed on New Year’s Day. The earliest that the DRC would be able to set things in motion for a free attorney would be on the next business day which was January 4, 2010. Had Carole decided not to go with the free attorney from DRC?
It would appear based on Carole’s posts at the beginning of the next week that there was no free attorney from DRC forthcoming. It was a good thing that Carole had had the presence of mind to set up a site asking for donations then on January 1, 2010.
A lawyer was found by the end of that week and according to an update from sebastians_mom (Amy Caraballo) on the Autism Women’s Network :
“Hi, Just wanted you to know an attorney in Little Rock has agreed to take on Zakh’s case. She is charging $5000, but that includes taking care of his felony, due process, and federally! Now I need to find the money by Sunday as we will meet her to go over all my documents. Zakh’s new hearing date is 13 April at 10…”
Now some were wondering what had happened to the FREE attorney from DRC as well as the FREE public defender? What had happened between December 30, 2009 when she had a new attorney for Zakh and January 9, 2010 that warranted giving up a FREE attorney for one that required $5,000 to mount his defence?
The rush to collect $5,000 was on with Vince Steele setting up the ChipIn widget and posting to the group:
“It’s currently 8:50 am Saturday for Carole and Zakh. So we have less than 24 hours to have something substantial moneywise to show her Atty.”
Carole was the first group member to respond on January 9, 2009 at 3:41 pm to Vince’s plea for money, writing:
“I’m really uncomfortable asking for help like this. If you want to help with your heart please do so, but not because you feel pressured. It is embarrassing to not be able to take care of our own responsibilities … and broadcasting all over we don’t have the money. We are not destitute … we live in a very nice house, with no equity because prices went down. We were forced to move 15 miles in Oklahoma to Arkansas in order to have DHS not put them in a group home. 3 years later and they still will not allow us to move back to our house of 11 yrs. My son rolled a big rig and sustained permanent injuries and got nothing from the company for it (don’t get me started on that!) so we help support him and his family. My other daughter has been disabled all her life and we pay her house payment. Before we got in this mess, starting with a false complaint of suspicious bruising, we had no bills and money in the bank. Now we are almost at retirement age, and broke. My husband is a disabled vet who continues employment to help our kids and grandkids. If you saw us you would never suspect how close we are to going over financially … and that is stressful to. So all you who can’t donate … I honest understand. ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))”
Wait a minute! She was uncomfortable on January 9, 2010 with asking people to donate money to her but she was fine with asking people to donate money to her on January 1, 2010 when she was asking how to put a PayPal button in the site to accept donations?
Vince Steele kept the pressure up for people to donate on January 9, 2010 with Carole right there behind him all the way.
“If you all go over and take a look at the chip-in meter, you’ll see that it has been sitting stagnant at 13 for the number of people who have actually made a contribution. Surely more people can spare a lousy $5 to get this $5000 target up before Sunday. YES SUNDAY! Carole needs the money up front for her Atty. She’s not going to get so much as a handshake with only $160 to pay her fee. You all happily joined this group to support Zakh, but you won’t part with a tiny amount of spare change to build the legal fund up to where we need it. We are not asking for you all to donate $5,000. We are only asking for $5, or whatever you can spare!!! Don’t let this boy get thrown into an institution simply because you needed an extra coffee at the mall today. Get your asses over to the donation site, and lets see that target become a reality today!!!! Tomorrow is too late!!!!!!“
Additionally, some were wondering how a lawyer could charge Carole only a $5,000 fee to represent Zakh on his criminal charge. Those of us who have any understanding of the legal system know that lawyer’s fees can add up quickly even and that legal work done pro bono requires that the client pay filing fees, photocopying and more. Some people began to wonder if the $5,000 was just the retainer fee since the $5,000 amount would seem reasonable.
Kim Wombles added her voice on January 9, 2010 at 8:30 am with this post:
“Silence from half the autism community on this matter boggles the mind. If you are a fan of the Age of Autism page, please post the link to Zakh’s donation page! Inundate that page with questions of where autism’s only daily newspaper is on this story!”
People asked if the $5,000 was the full fee because the amount seemed far too small for the sort of defence Carole Reynolds was claiming would have to be mounted to “save” Zakh.
In fact, Jackie asked her that very question in this very thread on January 9th at 9:27 am: “Is this $5000 a retainer for her services or is this her fee to handle the entire case?”
Carole’s response to Jackie that same day at 12:34 pm was “Unless the goes extremely long, it is her full fee [sic].”
You’re going to want to remember Carole’s response to Jackie as you read on.
But aside from the money issue and the attorney issue, there were other discrepancies and contradictions coming up with regards to what Carole Reynolds was posting. Some comments posted by Carole Reynolds here and there on Facebook as well as on other websites were so incongruous and inconsistent that there was no way everything that was being posted by Carole could be correct.
Carole posted on January 9, 2010 that she and her husband “were forced to move 15 miles in Oklahoma to Arkansas in order to have DHS not put them in a group home” and that “3 years later and they still will not allow us to move back to our house of 11 yrs.” The” them” to whom she was referring were Zakh and his siblings.
So what had happened 3 years prior that Carole and her husband were forced to move 15 miles in Oklahoma to Arkansas in order to have DHS not put her grandchildren in a group home? According to Carole, there was no good reason for DHS to apprehend the children. However, it would appear that there most assuredly was good reason for DHS to apprehend the children. We know this to be true because Carole wrote about it on February 22, 2009 at Hot Coupon World. She wrote:
“First off, let me tell you all that I was molested at 12 by my brother and my brother in law. That was in the 50’s, before much was done. Now I have the opposite problem! My Grandson was 10 at the time, and taking a shower, as was common (we’d warned his Mom he was to old to do this) his little 3 yr old sister got in the shower with him (he had the door closed, but not locked). Well, he touched her and then asked if she wanted to touch him., she said No. Then Mom heard it and over reacted by calling DHS and the police on her son. (This was the only time such a thing had happened!). DHS took him out of the home immediately and placed him with us … ”
Zakh’s older brother had touched their then 3-year old sister inappropriately. The mother contacted DHS as well as the police. That was the reason for DHS’ involvement in the family’s home life.
“We hired a lawyer, and $10,000 later we were given temp. custody of him. Fast forward 2 yrs…he is now 12 1/2 yrs old and no other incidents happened … however he is now about the equivalent of a 3rd grader in a hormonal teenage body. Since he has inappropriate social skills, not understanding blurting out what he is thinking is wrong …. well … “
If the child was 12 ½ in February 2009, then it is reasonable to assume that he is 13 years old now. Zakh’s mom put up a family composition jpg on her MySpace page with details on the ages and names of the children if people require additional information.
According to Carole:
“ … He was on the school bus and asked a little girl if she wanted to see his penis. He never approached her, touched her, etc … just in front of the entire bus asked her! The principal reported it to DHS as required by law. They came out an interviewed him and set a court date for end of March. He admitted he said it, but wasn’t embarrassed etc like a normal child would be. THEN not 2 weeks later he is sitting in class and tells a girl ‘If I had a camera I’d take a pic of your butt”. Again, everyone could hear him, he didn’t say naked, he didn’t attempt to touch her. So now all hell is breaking loose and they are wanting to commit him to that sexual offenders place for TWO YEARS! This boy still doesn’t understand the details of sex (yes, he’s been told, but he doesn’t comprehend it). If he is taken away, he will LEARN vile, filthy sex acts that will ruin him for life, and at 12 1/2 he’ll for the rest of his life have to register as a SEX OFFENDER! … “
Because the inappropriate behaviour is ongoing, the DHS will continue to be involved in the family’s life.
Now remember that Carole posted that she and her husband had spent $10,000 to be awarded custody of this particular grandson who we know is not Zakh? Zakh would have been 10 when Carole posted this on Hot Coupon World and he would have been approximately 7 years old at the time of the incident his mother called in to DHS and the police.
If $10,000 was spent on being awarded custody of the older grandson, then what does Carole mean in this post she made in Reply #12 on Jan 2, 2010 at 4:25am at “Learning Disabilities (LDs), ADHD and Education Support, The*SAFE*Site”?
“Hi, I’m Carole, Zakh’s Grandma. If you search facebook you should be able to find the site I created for him. Regards to the parents: Dad- is not in picture … he did enough damage to Zakh while he was. Mom- has 7 children and was in special ed all her life. She is afraid to be the one to make waves as other children go to the district. She has given me written permission to speak for her and Zakh any way I see fit. Step Dad does not like Zakh and has said in front of him he would like me to take him. (I have his oldest brother Tyler, aged 13 autistic). So tomorrow he is coming for a long visit with Grandma/Grandpa and Tyler. We are over extended in defending Zakh and his brothers to the tune of over $12,000. Plus we had to move 15 miles from Oklahoma to Arkansas in order for them to consider placing any kids with me. The district is Ft. Smith School District in Ft. Smith, Ar. If you google it you will find their number…impossible to find an email for them. There are a lot of people looking to help, thanks to all of you. But until Monday I won’t know if we have an atty. We still need a Behavior Analyst…. The teacher involved was sore where Zakh pushed her out of the way as he tried to leave his ’safe area’ because they cornered him in it and escalated him. She states he pushed her and she fell into the bookcase. It does not say he pushed her into the bookcase. The principal got kicked in the leg. Neither missed a minute of work, no doctor, no hospital, no ambulance etc. Please check out his facebook page! Someone has mentioned a phone blitz on Monday…hope a lot of people do it. Email me for the names of the people involved at the district if you’d like to call them. Carole_ar@cox.net”
So in Carole’s own words, she had spent $10,000 to be awarded custody of her grandson, Tyler, who is the child mentioned in Carole’s Hot Coupon World post above and also spent $12,000 to defend Zakh, Tyler and the two other brothers.
In the same post at this site, Carole claims that Zakh’s mother is “afraid to be the one to make waves as other children go to the district.” Considering that it was Zakh’s mother who reported her then 10 year old son to DHS and the police – with which, you will remember, Carole disagreed – why would Zakh’s mother be afraid of the school board since DHS’ involvement in the children’s lives is ongoing?
But wait a minute. Didn’t Carole Reynolds also post on Facebook that she spent $16,000 on Zakh’s legal problems in her comment to ASAN Activist Marc Rosen on December 27, 2009? Yes, she did. And didn’t Carole Reynolds post on Korey Rood-Behlmer’s page that the $16,000 spent on attorney’s fees was for Tyler and not Zakh? So if $16,000 – not $10,000 and not $12,000 – was spent on attorney’s fees, were they spent on Zakh’s behalf or on Tyler’s behalf?
If the $16,000 was spent on Zakh’s behalf, it gave rise to another question. Why would Carole Reynolds hire an attorney who was unfamiliar with Zakh and his disabilities when the previous lawyer who had represented Zakh was already familiar with Zakh and his disabilities. Surely a lawyer like that would not need to spend 7 hours in the lawyer’s office on a Sunday afternoon with Carole getting up to speed on Zakh and his disabilities.
For those of you who will argue that Carole did not spend 7 hours in the attorney’s office, remember that she posted at 1:37 pm on January 11, 2010:
“BIG NEWS BIG NEWS! Zakh’s attorney is preparing a statement with more info. I will post it when I get it.THERE WAS NO MEETING TODAY….yehaw! That is the reason you couldn’t show up.LOL. We are going for DUE PROCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!We were at the atty office for SEVEN long productive hours. Please spread this great news everywhere.”
More people began to question the initial $5,000 donation plea as any reasonable person could see the $5,000 would soon be exhausted at this rate. And then the other shoe dropped on January 16, 2010.
Now you do remember that Carole had posted to Jackie that “Unless the goes extremely long, it is her full fee.” Without going to court, on January 16, 2010 at 10:17 am, Carole announced that the attorney fees had increased substantially.
FROM OUR ATTORNEY“
“Caldwell estimates that Attorney Fees could likely run between $25,000.00 -35,000.00 depending upon what is needed to resolve the IDEA issues administratively and the criminal case depending on various factors. She has agreed to accept a small retainer fee ($5,000) to pursue Zakh’s case, but more funds are needed to offset costs for consultants and expert witnesses. Several people have contributed on line, and some are simply sending small checks ($10, $12, etc.) to Caldwell’s Law Office (#5 Innwood Circle, Suite 110, Little Rock, AR 72211 payable to Zakh Price Legal Trust Fund., which amounts are truly appreciated!”
While all of that was probably very upsetting for a number of people, over the same period of time, others were beginning to question not only Carole’s claimed attorney fees spent in 2009 as well as her claim of being poor.
“Because the School District does not want to educate Zakh we have run up some legal bills and see future costs in getting him his FAPE. We are his Grandparents, and we have no money left for his defense and any treatment /program he needs. Likely we will have to go out of state for these as Arkansas is not a friendly place for the disabled.”
Wait a minute. Hadn’t Carole posted that leaving the state was not allowed by DHS? Hadn’t Carole also posted on January 9, 2010 that she and her husband “were forced to move 15 miles in Oklahoma to Arkansas in order to have DHS not put them in a group home” and that “3 years later and they still will not allow us to move back to our house of 11 yrs?” How is it that shortly after posting that DHS legally prevented, and continues to prevent, Carole and her husband from leaving the state that the Zakh’s website states that they “will have to go out of state?”
With the DHS involved in the family’s lives, the expenses involved with dealing with the grandchildren’s needs over the past 3 years were to be expected. I applaud Carole for her largesse in helping out their son when their “son rolled a big rig and sustained permanent injuries and got nothing from the company for it (don’t get me started on that!) so we help support him and his family. My other daughter has been disabled all her life and we pay her house payment. ”
There are government supports available to adults in financial need but Carole chose to support one of her sons as well as her son’s family and one of her daughters. No one but Carole knows if this is an accurate representation of the situation and her finances.
But then, there were other examples of Carole’s financial status posted by Carole on her Facebook profile page.
Carole Reynolds wrote on July 3, 2009 at 9:45am “Is anyone missing us???? Does anyone know we are gone? LOL! I sit here in VAIL, COLORADO where the weather is in the 60’s and it is slightly raining. I feel clautrophobic here…everything is so close together and so tall you can’t find what you are lo
Parley Hubler Jr. knew because on July 4, 2009 at 12:19am he wrote back: “I am very jealous of your vacation location right now. I’m roasting back here. I took off a couple if days for the 4th of July holiday but spent almost two whole days working in the yard. I think I lost around 3-5 pounds of fluids each day. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. It’s not just a buzzword. Have fun and we will see you when you get back.”
And yet, when asked about this, Carole has repeatedly posted that she has never been to Vail, Colorado. On the group page on January 13, 2010 at 10:45 pm Carole posted: “I told you BEFORE I’ve never been to Vail…but you don’t want to spread the truth.“
So Carol has both been to Vail and not been to Vail. It’s a scientific impossibility to have both been and not been to Vail but Carole maintains that she has both been and not been to Vail.
On July 5 Carole Reynolds posted at 1:34am: “STADIUM OF FIRE! WOW! The stadium holds over 64,000 people and it was full. Carole Jr was right next to the stage walk, so all the performers went right by her! Truly patriotic and spectacular….great reminder that America is OUR COUNTRY! Not our elec”
I have not edited the posts. Some of Carole’s posts end like that. For those who aren’t familiar with the “Stadium of Fire” it’s one of the main events at the Provo Freedom Festival and is held in the Brigham Young University’s LaVell Edwards Stadium on the 4th of July every year. The Stadium performers in 2009 were the Jonas Brothers, SHeDAISY, and Glenn Beck. Again, not an inexpensive event to attend. Every year, the Stadium show has attendance of 50,000 according to the website. In other words, it’s a major event. From Arkansas, to get to Utah, you have to go through Oklahoma and Colorado so it’s not a day trip.
On July 7, 2009 at 11:38am Carole posted more about her family holiday: “Woohoo! I spent 2 hours shopping in the local LDS book store…and plan to go to another one in boise today. Went to a movie with the 7 kids and had a great time…they are so well behaved. Today we are going bowling and to another movie, and tomorrow.”
Carole mentioned going with the 7 kids. Perhaps she was talking about Zakh, Tyler and their siblings; perhaps she was talking about other children. Regardless, she and 7 kids continued to have a great holiday. They even took a day trip to Boise, Idaho (Idaho being the state just above Utah) which isn’t exactly an inexpensive day trip.
Then on July 29, Carole announced on her profile page: “Whooohooo ….. got a great surprise today! A NEW CHEVY COLT! Great credit score of 780! We traded a junky 94 Dodge caravan and got 6500 ! $2000 trade in and $4500 stimulus pkg. It had been loaned out to Becky. So we loaned Becky Cooters old Malibu as “
Later, Carole posted elsewhere on Facebook that she had purchased a Chevy Cobalt and not a Chevy Colt. Even with the Stimulus package and the trade in, the car — which comes with “standard with a 2.2-liter four-cylinder engine mated to either a five-speed manual or a four-speed automatic transmission. The SS Turbocharged comes with a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine mated to a five-speed manual transmission” – comes with a sizeable price tag. Who knows if Carole bought the car outright with cash or if she applied and received a bank loan? What we do know is that Carole boasted having what is considered to be an “A” credit rating no matter how you look at it. Again, kudos to Carole for having an “A” credit rating.
On August 16, 2009, Carole posted: ”WHOOHOOO!!! David doesn’t know this yet (shhh….don’t tell!) but I just booked us a room at the Marriott in Washington DC to attend the 9/12 Tax protest rally! There are going to be thousands of people there! This will be so fun…..Now….I need a sign…anybody good at signs???“
While it’s good to see that Carole felt compelled to attend the 9/12 Tax Protest Rally in Washington, DC with her husband, David, rooms at the Marriott Hotel – according to the Marriott Hotel website — start at $200 per night. When you factor in flying into Reagan Airport, taxis and meals, a sizeable amount of money was spent.
On September 18, 2009 Carole wrote: “Well….I am in a pickle here. I purchased a NON REFUNDABLE room for Time Out For Women, and 2 extra tickets…and now the people who were suppose to go can’t. The room has 2 double beds and is $153. and the tickets are $57. The date is 23-24 Oct in Kansas City, Mo.”
On September 19, 2009 she posted: “Hi everyone! Time Out For Women this year is in Kansas City, Mo on 23-24 Oct. I have 2 extra tickets ($57 ea) and a motel room with 2 double beds ($159). It is for only one night. Carole Jr and I are going, but we don’t need two rooms or 4 tickets! LOL”
Only Carole knows if she was able to find two more people to attend the event in Kansas City.
The spending spree continued as Carole posted publicly on September 22, 2009: “Well….my SWEET DEAR KIND AND LOVING hubby let me get a macbook laptop today. I feel loved. Now to learn how to turn it on and play with it..I have no clue!”
It’s always nice to hear that after so many years of marriage that high school sweethearts still feel that way about each other.
Then on October 8, 2009 Carole announced she was headed off on another trip: “Off for 4 days to Ohio! Learning a ‘healing’ technique called “Emotion Code”. Google it….the author is LDS and it is a proven natural method of healing.”
For a woman who claims to be poor, so far a lot of money was spent on luxuries.
She was lucky enough to be able to secure at least one ticket for the David Archeluto concert for one of her daughters.
David Archeluto was still a pretty hot property on October 22, 2009 when Carole wrote: “I just ordered some tickets for a concert for Acheuleto??? Don’t know how to spell it. It is that LDS guy from American Idol? Carole JR loves him…so SURPRISE!”
We know that based on what Carole wrote, she allegedly purchased more than one ticket. Tickets to see any of the American Idol finalists are always expensive when they first start touring. She got them in Row 9 … the more expensive seats.
On November 1, 2009 Carole posted: “December 3rd going to OKC for the Wrightslaw Conference. It is all the laws and regulations the schools are SUPPOSE to go by for the kids with special needs. SURPRISE! If you don’t know the law, they won’t tell you. And if you tell the school the law….more than half the time they deny or ignore it! You have to fight for those special kids!”
Anyone who has ever attended a conference can tell you that they are definitely an expense. Attending the Wrightslaw Conference in Oklahoma City was undoubtedly an excellent experience with a lot of worthwhile information but it doesn’t negate the fact that attending such a conference costs money.
A quick perusal of Carole’s Facebook page revealed all of the above and more. In fact, Carole’s profile was open to the public to view without restrictions up until the morning of January 13, 2009. There was no supersleuthing involved. There was no illegal credit check conducted. No one had stolen Carole’s social security number as one group member had fretted. Her posts were made available — by Carole Reynolds herself — to the public to view.
While it’s not a crime to enjoy so many luxuries and more over a 6 month period, and while it’s no crime to help a son who “rolled a big rig and sustained permanent injuries and got nothing from the company for i” and it’s no crime to “help support him and his family,” and while it’s no crime to help the “other daughter [who] has been disabled all her life” and to pay her house payment, it does lead people to feel that perhaps Carole’s financial situation is not as impoverished as she portrays it to be.
Then again, perhaps Carole’s financial situation is one of neediness. Who knows? With so many conflicting stories, it’s hard to separate the facts from the fabrications.
After all, on January 9, 2009 at 3:41 pm, Carole did post in response to Vince’s discussion on the group’s Wall: “If you saw us you would never suspect how close we are to going over financially … and that is stressful to.”
Still it’s hard to believe that Carole’s financial situation is so bad after spending so much money on luxuries during the second half of 2009. According to Carole, her husband is a federal employee, working as a Ward Clerk.


They do have a house in Fort Smith, AR – a beautiful 4 bedroom home — that’s listed for sale with a real estate agent for $219,000 USD. And they do own a home in Muldrow, OK where comparable homes on the same block sell for $143,000 USD on average according to real estate appraisers. Remember that they’re also paying one daughter’s house payments which isn’t the same as letting her live in their home in Muldrow, OK and not charging her rent. And they are also helping to support their injured son and his family. If they can afford all of that, it’s no surprise that Carole has an “A” credit rating. Good for Carole and her husband that they should have accumulated so much over the years.
It’s these discrepancies and contradictions that caused people to ask questions about Carole’s need for financial support from the Autism community where many of its members are living well below the poverty level themselves. On behalf of those who contacted me and who voiced their concerns, I did some research to see if I could set their minds at ease.
The more I read Carole’s own posts, the more discrepancies and contradictions arose.
That others have continued to ask questions is not my problem nor is it being done at my behest. I am not the many people a small group of individuals have accused me of being.
And now, laying this subject to rest once and for all, I would like to point out that according to the police report, Zakh was charged with second degree battery, not felony assault.
Any future cyberbullying will be reported to the appropriate authorities.